lively and long winded discussion over at Ann_Cs
some of the comments make me look brief – ya hoo. no more jabs at me re: my length! (yeah i know they will try but no worries cuz kettle so black)
since some comments are being excluded now over there – i have copied and pasted my latest and last.
a couple of things first:
1. im sorry so much of this discourse has been in English only
2. i do not want to see any attack comments over here – i dont care who is being targeted or who is doing the targeting
the truth and nothing but the truth folks
3. there is a major weird and sickening spin going round by the texting folks – they are saying that there is a Deafhood conspiracy to overun schools and Deaf organizations for profit. Honey this is smoke and mirrors and PURE hysterics. It would be hysterical if it were not so cruel and dangerous. It would be hysterical if bad things didnt normally follow when folks spread hysteria and dress it up as hystory (see our Japanese-American concentration camps, see the McCarthy Era, see segregation, see the Shoah, see antisemitism spread by the fabricated protocols of zion)
Bad $hit happens when folks spread falseHOODS for ill purposes
bad $hit happens when folks point way over there when we got some MIGHTY powerful systems to take a look at:
– oral / aural only systems
– CI/AVT systems (including the lawsuits and the partnerships with AG Bell association)
There does seem to be PROOF of a conspiracy finally but it is not the folks who are pro-DBC, AFA, Deafhood who are engaging in a conspiracy
it is the anti-DBC, anti-AFA, anti-Deafhood, anti-oppose ab 2072, anti-bilingualism-biculturalism, PRO-ORAL / AURAL ONLY, PRO-CI/AVT that have been engaging in unethical practices (selling of faulty CIs that shock children, kickbacks to doctors and audiologists, fleecing medicad/medicare, harassing, unjustly defaming, attacking folks via their workplace/affiliations/licensing boards). it has been proven to be premeditated and organized
conspiracy:an evil, unlawful, treacherous, or surreptitious plan formulated in secret by two or more persons; plot.
Now for my comment at Ann_c’s
(note: I have corrected a few of me typos below in red – if the comment gets published at Ann_Cs it wont have these corrections)
patti Says: Your comment is awaiting moderation.
October 15, 2010 at 12:11 pm (note i submitted me comment this morning not at 12:11 pm just fyi)
Ella above explains her OPINION – she has not falsely labeled something as a fact that is not a fact. She also states:”I didn’t contact and I believe i didn’t encourage. I’m sure i did say it’s not wrong to express concerns to that person.”
so Candy what am i (patti) supposed to be shouting out against?
It is sad how u dragged this in here while preaching forgiveness. Put the letters up at your place as i have asked you before so we have all the FACTS and if folks attacked u under false pretenses i will do a major shout out. If folks were just expressing their concerns based on facts – ill look at if the intent and aim or possible outcome was termination and determine if a shout out is in order but girl u have to give me the FACTS first.
see i may be slow but im learning
re: Barry’s drafted letters – yep back to the bloody point of this thread – they (whether they got sent or modified and sent i do not care) what they contained were FALSEHOODS with the intent to have DISCIPLINARY actions taken against folks and to destroy the DBC
he would still do it today if it wouldnt cause them to loose their jobs – SAD SAD SAD
but it is a TRUTH – PAH!
thank u barry for speaking a truth for all to see.
the letters Barry drafted against Ella, DE, and Barb contain false accusations with the intent to defame and hurt the targets and DBC (the fact that he didnt want folks to loose their jobs or positions is not any consolation for his conduct.)
I do want to thank everyone here who put forth facts and truths.
Peace (positive peace is not the absence of tension but rather the presence of justice as MLK explained it)
– it is unjust what Barry has been doing and it is unjustifiable.
his commitment to continue doing so is WRONG
DE, Ella and Barb may have taken strong positions re: Oralism – meaning the extreme system that EXCLUDES the inclusion natural signed language in the life of Deaf children – and CI especially in conjunction with AVT (which prohibits lipreading and signing)
They may have challenged those systems and practices but they have NEVER said a person with a CI is bad and should be unloved
The off-color jokes that DE made in the aim chat were NOT objected to by ANYONE including BARRY himself. in fact barry is seen to make a comment of “Good One, DE” or something to that effect after one of DEs other off the cuff remarks.
If Barb, DE and Ella EVER EVER EVER preached a gospel of hate against children with CIs and their parents or children who are oral – I would be the first person to do a shout out.
Now they may have said some unchaste things or things I may disagree with at some points in their lives but they have NEVER made a public statement representing themselves, their schools or affiliations in a light that preach intolerance, profiling, or hate. NEVER
my ability to disagree with what folks might say from time to time and still see their overall pattern of conduct, intention and aim – applies to meself also. I do not always agree with i have said or done and need good folks to give me a shout out and to help guide me way.
It is not true what Barry has been saying about DE, Ella and Barb and he has laid a path of FALSEHOODS from the moment he left the DBC
He has made it abundantly clear that he is on a vendetta to discredit and disban the DBC, AFA, Deafhood Foundation, CAD, oppose AB 2072, and Ella
The results of all his efforts are:
– DBC is alive and well and doing good work
– AFA is alive and well and doing good work
– CAD is alive and well and doing good work
– oppose AB 2072 was alive and well and did good work – and succeed in their aim
– Ella is alive and well and doing good work
– I am alive and well and doing good work
– Barb is alive and well and doing good work
– DE is alive and well and doing good work
– The Deafhood movement is alive and well and doing good work
– The audism free movement is alive and well and doing good work
– The bilingual – bicultural movement is alive and well and doing good work
despite the relentless smear campaign, harassment, attacks, and falseHOODS
Signing Circle never even got their by laws together and it has been discredited and banned disbanned
deafless is dead
false extremist group listings is booted from wikipedia
Oral / Aural only is opposed by ICED Vancouver 2010 New Era agreement
Deafread has become a wasteland of attack blogs, mapping 1, 2, 3 and announcements
Oppose AB 2072 is vetoed by Governor Arnold
MANY MANY MANY good folks have made vlogs and video comments saying how much they regret having been duped by Barry. some have even cried. This is why i do this truth campaign. I have no desire to hurt Barry. I do desire that he stop lying, harassing, defaming, attacking, and bullying. (Tar, Cheryl, Nikki, Richard, CajunPeach, ASLKimber etc etc etc have spoken their truths and many more – it is for them that i stand)
so the fact that Barry is committed to doing the same stuff all over again – well goodness – doesnt seem like those strategies have been paying off too well but heye – far be it for me to be a critic
it is clear that he has chosen to remain on his path of falsehoods and attacks
it is clear that some of you have chosen to dismiss his past conduct and his present commitment to more of the same
i will not be back here but again i am very thankful for the opportunity to see these truths and others unfold. it is important.
I forgive, I love, and i continue to move forward in our quest for POSITIVE PEACE, JUSTICE, and EQUALITY for all
if anybody wants me – ill just be hanging out at “People of the Eye” and Karen’s “tranquilty” i aint going to no more bad neighborhoods no more.
focusing me time in the real world and NOT THE cyber UNreality