ASL version (by Ella Mae Lentz) of an excerpt of MLK Jr's Speech before march on Selma

Death of the Spirit vs. Standing Up link here cuz embedded video is not appearing sometimes
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Short clip of Ella Mae Lentz signing an excerpt of MLK, Jrs speech before the march on Selma, Alabama with real footage of MLK, Jr giving this speech with captions.
Folks who want the audio might want to watch directly in youtube – there r some audio glitches in the tape when embedded here it seems

Martin Luther King, Jr., one of my heroes, gave an impassioned speech in 1965 before the march on Selma, Alabama. He anticipated that the peaceful demonstrators would be met with violence by the authorities. He also seemed to be anticipating his own death, which would come three years later, at the hands of violence. Still he stayed true to the cause – to stand up for that which is right, which is just, which is true.

I shared this excerpt of MLK, Jrs speech at the ASLTA conference when talking about the importance of “doing good,” taking a stand, and the power of the medium of film. When I brought up a slide with the text quote (at that time i had no video of MLK, Jr making this speech) – Ella Mae Lentz was in the audience and said – that is very powerful – it needs to be signed out in ASL. I wholeheartedly agreed but know i could never honor the quality and nobility of those words – I asked if she would be willing to do so and she replied “ill try my best.” Her best was better than could be imagined. for anyone who was at the ASLTA conference and witnessed Ella sign this excerpt – on the spot with no time to practice or deliberate – it almost looked as if she were moved by the spirit. The spirit of activism, justice, and love.

Unfortunately there was not videotape of that moment so i asked her if she would be willing to sign it again the next day and I videotaped it. Was so grateful she was willing to do so given her busy schedule.

Still makes me very emotional to watch the tape. Lost it twice but it kept resurfacing so im glad ive finally got it done and up there.

thanks to each and all of you who peacefully “stand up for that which is right …. stand up for justice… stand for that which is true.”

Let us conquer the “Death of the Spirit” and AWAKE


patti durr

37 Comments (+add yours?)

  1. Aslpride
    Jan 04, 2008 @ 18:41:50

    Yes, I agree. When we do nothing and allow the society decide what’s best for us. We are dead in our heart. Let’s empower ourselves and look at the bright side in our community or in my new term, in ASLAN community. 🙂

  2. Aidan Mack
    Jan 04, 2008 @ 19:12:49

    Beautiful job, Ella. You rock as usual. MJK is my inspiration.

    ASLpride: ASLIAN is not YOUR or SEAN’s new term. I heard this word many times a long time ago before both of you came up the idea.

    I am proud to say DEAF community. Deaf is not shame word. Black people don’t identity themselves with their language because this is White world like some people say this is HEARING world. So sad that to see some Deaf people are brainwashed by hearing people preaching, “This is hearing world, that is way the world is.” That is deficit thinking. This is diverse world where they include every group and ARE NOT OWNED BY MEN, STRAIGHT PEOPLE, WHITE PEOPLE, or HEARING PEOPLE.

    They are proud of being BLACK therefore we can be proud of being DEAF…


  3. DE
    Jan 04, 2008 @ 19:35:18

    Primo translation, Ella! Wow… amazing.


  4. pdurr
    Jan 04, 2008 @ 20:08:27

    im gonna ask that u take up the ASLAN debate in a blog/vlog thread that focuses on this topic

    i think it was fine for ASLpride to choose to use this term

    Aidan can choose to prefer Deaf culture as a term

    i dont want to distracts us from what the original video is about – it is about standing up for justice and that which is right and true…peacefully

    passion with compassion please

    i really love MLK jrs message – especially in light of what folks were facing in Selma – the speech went on to say
    “So we’re going to stand up amid horses. We’re going to stand up right here in Alabama, amid the billy-clubs. We’re going to stand up right here in Alabama amid police dogs, if they have them. We’re going to stand up amid tear gas!

    We’re going to stand up amid anything they can muster up, letting the world know that we are determined to be free! ”

    Standing up – peacefully, firmly, lovingly, and quietly often is loud and clearer than when we SHOUT or use harsh/judging language

    i really dont know if i myself could have mustered the courage that African-Americans and their white allies demonstrated at this time

    they are a light to the world – let us try to honor their good work by learning from it



  5. pdurr
    Jan 04, 2008 @ 20:11:35

    ASLpride = empowerment – YES
    DE and Aidan = re: ella’s translation – Agree. i still wish i had footage from the night before because there was an energy to it that was really raw and tangible.
    Aidan = re: MLK inspiration – YES he rocks!

    thanks for taking the time to view and comment

    no death of the spirit here ; )



  6. Aidan Mack
    Jan 04, 2008 @ 20:42:30

    Patti: I have nothing against ASLIAN at all. I support it.. My friend Robert Arnold has been using this term since more than 15 years. What it makes me respect him even more that he never uses “MY” term. :o)

    TYPO: Black people don’t identity themselves with their language because this is White world like some people say this is HEARING world.

    Correction: Black do not change their identity from Black or African-American (some Black people do not like calling themselves as African-American) to their language because this is WHITE world.

    TYPO: This is diverse world where it includes every group and ARE NOT OWNED BY MEN, STRAIGHT PEOPLE, WHITE PEOPLE, or HEARING PEOPLE.

    CORRECTION: This is diverse world that is shared by every group and is not owned by MEN, STRAIGHT PEOPLE, WHITE PEOPLE, OR HEARING PEOPLE.


  7. Deb Ann
    Jan 04, 2008 @ 21:24:35

    Amazing and Bravo, Patti! 😉

  8. Platonic's Eye
    Jan 04, 2008 @ 21:29:49

    No Deaf Community match MLK!!! Black Community have one goal-justice and freedom for all and they have very strong unity! MLK inspiredd Black Community in their strength in that unity, but what do Deaf community find in themselves?

  9. Carl Schroeder
    Jan 04, 2008 @ 22:14:37

    Yes! I do know many, many “dead” Deaf people!

  10. C
    Jan 04, 2008 @ 22:31:45

    This is white world? Not so according to world statistics. May seem like it in certain parts of USA than other parts. But, when it comes to “world”, white does not dominate. Just want to clarify that. In USA alone if you combine all other race such as blacs, hispanics, asians, etc it surpasses white in total. So, whites are in the minority!!!! Doesn’t seem like it but, it is.

  11. kim
    Jan 04, 2008 @ 22:53:20

    Patti– I have always loved Martin Luther King’s inspirational speeches. I’ve read his biography and many of his speeches. What a timely blog in light of his special day almost upon us!! 🙂 In some ways, MLK was obsessive about his goals for his people. And yes, very brave. Honestly I think most black people are brave even to this day because I think they need to develop thicker skins early on as children. They still put up with racist attitude just as D/deaf put up with audist attitude. But you know what?? I have lived on both sides of the fence– I have been hearing and now I am deaf. I have learned that one develops a certain amount of character to be part of any minority population in America. Sometimes I feel almost privileged to have the deaf/hh/Deaf connectedness. Does this make sense? “Normal” is booooooooooooring. hahaha!

  12. Barb DiGi
    Jan 04, 2008 @ 23:06:29

    This is so inspiring not only to see how this has been translated into ASL but you both Deaf women collaborating this topic into a vlog! It gave me the goosebumps!!

    C..Yes, the whites still dominate here in our own American soil even the most part of the world (not counting Africa and Asia). Take a look at the U.S. Congress members and tell me how many Blacks and Hispanics grasp the seats? The number didn’t even surpasses the white. When it comes to the definition of minority, it is not necessarily the population count that qualifies but the number of power that holds the grip of the government.

  13. Barb DiGi
    Jan 04, 2008 @ 23:08:42

    lemme finish my sentence..

    ..government that makes up a majority.

  14. C
    Jan 04, 2008 @ 23:42:48

    Barb, In USA, but Aidan was talking about WORLD. Statistics already showed that currently in USA 1 out of 10 counties, whites are a minority and the numbers are going up fast! pretty soon whites will not be a majority. But, if you combine all minority, it already is far higher in total compared to whites so in some respects, whites are not a majority. Follow me? It’s interesting that you look at US congress members, I didn’t think to look at it that way. I was looking at the official statistics. One would think that if whites were not majority, then we’d see more minority in congress. It’s an interesting perspective and remains to be seen.

  15. Sheri Farinha Mutti
    Jan 05, 2008 @ 01:17:20

    Hey this is fantastic Patti! I wish we could see more discussion about politics, diversity, etc. There is so much to discuss and educate each other about.

    Okay Ella, gotta get you to start translating Hillary and/or Obamas speeches next!

  16. anonn
    Jan 05, 2008 @ 02:18:31


    Patti, please forgive me for continuing the ASLian discussion for just a minute. I just want to let ASLpride know that I CANNOT post my comment on his/her site, because anonymous comments are not allowed. I tried to sign up for a Google account and kept getting stuck on having to type a password and the security check over and over and over, even after my password passed their test.

    So ASLPride, PLEASE PLEASE allow anonymous comments. You are essentially closing off dialogue on your idea. If your concerned about flame wars, you can simply set moderation for comments. That way you have control about what is posted.

    Thank you.

    End commercial. Back to regular programming, which is adoration of Ella and Patti’s work (richly deserved, though)

  17. pdurr
    Jan 05, 2008 @ 04:47:37

    Platonic’s Eye
    The Black Community definitely had a TON of division during the civil rights movement which pretty much spanned 20 years

    division by – Nation of Isam, Malcom X, black panthers, and many many many other folks who opted for a “death of spirit” so they could live to be 80

    U r right that MLK was a great unifier but the Black civil rights movement had a ton of false starts, divisiveness, struggles, disagreements, etc and still they over came

    This is also true for the movement for independence in India

    Key to success were:
    – leadership
    – civil resistance (peaceful protest)
    – eye on the prize (clear goals)

    In no way was I trying to equate the Black struggle for civil rights with Deaf people’s struggles. There are parallels certainly but mostly why I shared those two clips was because of the power of the content of the words and the message

    Deaf people have not collectively faced the threats African-Americans have faced = MLK Jr mentions bombings (he and many many other Black families homes were bombed as well as churches etc), shootings, and beatings that African-Americans who advocated for equality encountered

    The Deaf community has faced far less-worse yet often times the Deaf community seems paralyzed by fear – almost as if beaten down spiritually.

    Some of the comments posted give me HOPE that we can conquer this collective “death of the spirit”

    I know many d/Deaf people take a stand individually everyday (we have 1,001 victories to share). Imagine what we can accomplish if we COME TOGETHER



  18. pdurr
    Jan 05, 2008 @ 05:09:37

    Aidan – thanks for the corrections/clarification

    Deb Ann – smile (sorry I don’t know how to add icons)

    Carl – at first I was like ‘dead’ Deaf people – what is he talking about and then I was like aba! ‘dead’ from a death of the spirit – TRUE. Sad but true!

    C – I think Aidan was referencing power status not actual numbers
    Hence a lot of folks have moved away from saying the majority culture and now say dominant. Example South Africa’s minority group Afrikkaners ruled over the majority group (and many other smaller groups like Asians and bi-racial groups) for many years

    Some folks do theories that to talk of race and ethnicity is no longer realistic – rarely anyone is purely anything any more

    C – US is becoming more pluralistic as u mentioned however old habits die hard – we still have a strong sad history of racism in the US – we will overcome some day but it will take a lot of hard work and honesty

    Kim –re: i really like what u wrote especially “Normal” is booooooooooooring.

    Shari – re: quality discussions – I think u r a big contributor of such – pls keep it up – much needed as u said

    Re: Ella tanslating Hillary and/or Obama’s speeches – that would be COOL but poor ella – I imagine she is barely treading water on most days with her plate so full – smile

    Anonn – hopefully ASLpride will see this. Funny re: commercial



  19. pdurr
    Jan 05, 2008 @ 05:13:42

    Barb – goosebumps – exactly how me feel too

    Re: Race and representation – this is off the point a bit but related to ur comment – I have been thinking a lot about the lack of diversity in terms of race /ethnicity amongst our vloggers. I really would like to see more “people of color” signing out. Not so I can say “oh it’s a small world after all…” but because I believe by virtue of my being hard of hearing, my being female, my being Catholic yet having a Jewish husband and raising our kids Jewish – I bring unique POVs, understandings, and sensibility to our blog/vlog discourse. At the same time I feel MY UNDERSTANDING and exposure of Deaf African-Americans, Deaf Latinos, Deaf Asians take on things is very lacking – I really need this education so if u know of some folks that seem to have lots to share – pls encourage them to be more visible. I really would love to see this. It saddens me to have Deaf culture seem like Deaf Caucasian culture – ugh! We do have some Deaf vloggers of color (help – if this is wrong terminology let me know) but would love to see more.



  20. Sean
    Jan 05, 2008 @ 06:28:51

    Patti –

    I’m very glad that you brought this up. It is one of the other issues I plan to bring up on vlog in near future.

    Sadly enough, whenever a crisis happen to a deaf person, no one else are willing to come in and lend a hand, giving a support to the cause of any kind of issues. Regardless of the difference between these two individuals, they both will not set aside their difference and help to protect their cause within the community.

    Am I making any sense? For example, two gay people, totally different in their views in lifestyle. One time, there’s a discrimination fell upon one of these gay people. The other gay person gives up their time and join the rally for this gay person to promote against the discrimination, knowing it has nothing to do with this person.

    The point is… any kind of issues we face, we cannot do them alone. We need support to address the issue and resolve for the better sake of the community. Blacks, Gays, Women, and various groups always are so ready to invest their support to the larger issues. While the deaf community don’t.

    That’s the major issue we need to address, we need to learn to set aside our difference and work together to fight the larger issue. When we do this (I pray it happens asap!!!) our culture/community will become strong!

    Patti – Thanks for bringing this video in!!! Look forward to my vlog soon about this issue! I look forward to your inputs!

    Off the point – For the sake of clarification about “ASLian”, I do not claim I invented that word, “ASLian””. I mentioned, I came up with it out of thin air. Yes, this word have been used long time before my time. I never claimed that I own/invented the word.

    Till then,


  21. pdurr
    Jan 05, 2008 @ 07:05:21

    hi sean

    thanks for ur comment

    i dont know about the blanket statement using “no one”

    but i understand ur point

    there is alot of old baggage that folks have a hard time putting aside – this is very common in oppressed group especially in ones that r very very S-M-A-L-L

    i do believe there is good d/Deaf activism on an individual level and i do believe when a critical mass gets hit then we see more Deaf unity – however what i am noticing is when an issue arises many folks first response is to have a strong opinion about it but when asked to actually do something about it – ACTIVE, POSITIVE, and PEACEFUL

    many claim “im neutral” i have seen this especially with folks in leadership positions and d/Deaf organizations

    im not trying to be critical – i think there is GREAT wisdom on not having knee jerk reactions

    i think there is great wisdom in doing ones homeworks to make sure we have all the facts etc

    but instead what i often see is plenty of opinions and venting and calling the kettle black and very little action

    there are many causes:
    lack of information
    learned helplessness
    honest to goodness difference of opinion

    but none of those r borne out of neutrality – which is the cloak many folks will hide behind

    this Death of the Spirit – i am afraid is a powerful outcome of the power of disenfranchisement and colonialization

    thankfully there are far more people with good courage willing to stand up for that which is right and true than their are those who want to live to be 80

    look forward to ur posting on this subject

    re: ASLian – ill be posting soon re: the topic of another name for Deaf culture soon

    cross-fermentation of ideas – ya hoo





  22. B.A.D.
    Jan 05, 2008 @ 07:31:00

    Ella – THIS is VERY Powerful, thank you for bringing this up!!

    WE do NEED to stand up, and no more fear, you got the right and great message out!!

    Very true, you’ve impacted me!!!!

  23. Karen Mayes
    Jan 05, 2008 @ 07:34:18

    Okay, I have a question… related to races (especially the color of skin.) I wonder in anywhere in history that were the black people ever considered as a medical defective (I am sure they were seen that way by white supramists)?

    Now, I have never taken the history of American Africans/Africans (except for the slavery part and Civil Rights in the US History in 1980’s and a history teacher from high school had the class read Malcolm X book which was powerful, heartbreaking and inspiring as Malcolm met all kinds of people in Middle East and saw many Muslims were white, a surprise to him and a revealing to him that the color of skin did not matter.) I have attended/graduated from a black high school (University City High School in St. Louis)in 1980’s but I do not recall much about black people talking about their culture, I do remember there were a lot of hand signals, cool… I mean really cool…dances in the school halls, awesome basketball games, etc…so I guess I never really saw them as different because they accepted me as a white deaf girl with nerdy glasses :o), including me in their lives. I had a good friend who herself was black (she is an interpreter nowadays in St. Louis.) I also read that the continent Africa has a rich history … and and nowadays when my children see black people, they never see them as medically defective and they even don’t know what “nigger” means (I refuse to teach them degratory words.) They just see them as darker people (my daughter insists that the word “black” is wrong… it should be “brown” or “tan” :o)), nothing more, nothing less. In fact, they find Native Americans an unique strange group (we don’t see them at all here in Indiana, due to being forced to living on the reservations, so they must be more oppressed than deaf people? Mike McConnell touched this topic last year.)

    So the question is if the word “black” was ever labeled as a medically defective skin disorder for black people in the history or not? Yes, they are the prime example of oppression, pride, etc., all because of their visible color… unlike deaf people which consists up of a much smaller percentage of US population which makes it more difficult for advocacy.

  24. Platonic's Eye
    Jan 05, 2008 @ 09:36:42

    Number of differe3nt groups among Blacik Poeple what they have in very common is race. For a long time White men denied Black people as a man but rather property. They tolerated they understood toleration inside and their spirit never died because they have a dream. They know the truth about themselves. not the same way what Deaf Community have been through oppression but what kind, I do not see any comparison to Black Experiences! They had much strong in their characters in struggling to find the path to real JUSTICE and FREEDOM. MLK inspired a lot of them because MLK never preached about a problem of being BLACK! He preached nonviolent that is only way to overcome the injustice and oppression they already showed, MLK understood the truth of Being Black, very well. Deaf Community I do not see any compare to what MLK had said struggle to find the true identity and true language and yet face the big battle of the power of the Babels today!!!

  25. Sean
    Jan 05, 2008 @ 09:40:38


    My bad. I should have said, “Most of us” instead of “No one”. You are right. 🙂

    Small or large oppressed groups, regardless of this, I feel we should set aside our difference away and help to defend the honor of the community.

    Regrettably, you are right, lot of Deaf people are scared to lend their support to other people who experienced frustrating moments from the larger issues.

    Fear, lack of information, and all of these you just mentioned earlier are true. They are scared they will lose something more if they lend their hand to support the cause.

    One thing I really despite when people are talking loudly than their action would be. For example, one of my mottos, “ATNA – Always Talk, Never Act” is the motto that I use very often. Sadly most people are full of hot air.

    When will they learn to set aside their difference and contribute their support to any issues we, Deaf people need to fight for.

    For example, where did they (Deaf people who rally protest in Gallaudet Univ. recently.) go? I feel people who involved the Gallaudet protest (presidency) are fighting over the “popularity contest” (While I do support the idea of having a good president representing the university & community.) Again, where did they go? Why couldn’t they move on to next cause and fight for.

    Why can’t they fight:

    -ASL language in DEAF schools?
    -CC accessibility in all television shows, ads, news?
    -Interpreter in small medical practitioners’ offices.
    -Many more.

    They all disappeared after Bob was appointed as a president of Gallaudet.

    I find this quite unsettling.

    Back to the point, “I’m neutral”, it’s well known thing. I think it’s more of crab theory and the list you just outlined, Fear!

    Yeah, you are right, lot people like us venting lot opinions about the issues… Why can’t we take the action?

    I can most definitely say I am taking the action. I’m the president of New Jersey Association of the Deaf and I promote advocacy for Deaf & Hard of Hearing people. I deal with these people everyday. I’m proud that I am walking on the path based on what I’ve been preaching about.

    I just wish lot people do the same. :-\

  26. Aidan Mack
    Jan 05, 2008 @ 10:26:53

    To C says:

    There are more women than men in this world and some men still feel this is a man’s world. I am not talking about numbers. I am talking about power status like patti said.

    Sean: Being president doesn’t mean that She or he is proactivist. she or he can sit down, be vain, and do nothing for the Deaf community.

    Davila is a true activist for the Gallaudet community. Look at the Gallaudet University now. He and his committee worked very hard to clean up all the mess that Jordon and JKF had made.


  27. pdurr
    Jan 05, 2008 @ 11:04:49

    this is a great discussion

    thank u each for ur contributions and perspectives

    i have individual responses that ill paste below and them im going to “step away from the key board”

    im inspired by this dialogue but i know my long answers can kill others interest in commenting so ill just paste and walk away for a while – feel free to scroll past mine as u see fit

    again thanks

  28. pdurr
    Jan 05, 2008 @ 11:05:09

    Re: medical stigma re: blacks – yes I have seen literature asserting Black people’s intellectual inferiority but further analysis has always disproved such a claim. A lot of testing has shown to be culturally biased. Race and poverty often go had in hand because of the legacy of racism and discrimination so often African-Americans and Latinos are often the product of poor education due to systematic discrimination. There is also the factor of being a voluntary and involuntary minority – that makes a significant difference in achievement also.

    Blacks bodies have also been “examined” to try to support bad racial theories. But most of these assertions occurred when African-Americans / Blacks were called the N word, or Negros or coloreds

    Stereotyping is sadly alive and well in our society but thankfully it is challenged and not taken as fact by all or most

    I mention a bit re: this topic in my next blog

  29. pdurr
    Jan 05, 2008 @ 11:05:35

    Platonic’s Eye
    U r right that there are significant differences between the Black experience and the Deaf experience. We are always looking for comparison basis to help us understand ourselves better. For example often gay and lesbian culture is compared to Deaf for the chief reason that Gays and Lesbians come from heterosexual parents and have to learn / acquire their culture and identity later in life even if they were “born gay”

    Other underrepresented / disenfranchised groups share some commonalities with Deaf culture. Jewish people have had to live in the diaspora for a long time without a home land. Deaf people really have no homeland – we might have some large communities or some centralized places but not really a land in the sense of a nation-state

    Comparing different cultural groups can be helpful but no model really fits the Deaf culture 100% – also I want us to remember that within Deaf culture we have rich racial / ethnic diversity that sadly often does not raise to the top in terms of leadership and visibility. It is improving but those of us with white privilege need to be mindful of this

    Re: MLK and our not having any leader or unity as African-Americans have exhibited – it is hard for me to judge that because since Deaf culture is often “one generation thick” meaning it is not transmitted from parent to child again and again and again – much of our heritage has been LOST. The more I learn in Deaf history the more I find I need to learn more. There are many many heroes and champions and advocates cut from the same mold as beloved MLK. No they did not have the same success nor did they have the same visibility nor r they remembered and revered but they did try

    U r totally right that the Civil Rights movement for African-Americans was not about language rights but it was about being seen as human and equal and free – African- Americans had been free in this country since the Emancipation Proclamation went into effect. Why is MLK still taking about freedom 100+ years later?

    Because freedom means a lot more than just not having shackles on ur wrists and ankles. There is no doubt that many races have experiences much worse, harsher, crueler, inhumane, and overt discrimination than that of Deaf people but it does not make our struggle for equality any less valid or important.

  30. pdurr
    Jan 05, 2008 @ 11:06:13

    Sean –

    Im glad u r being an activist. I wish u all the best for positive and peaceful progress.

    Platonic’s eyes mentioned the tower of Babel within the deaf community and perhaps that is another factor for inaction. That we at times do not share the same language so to speak because of various communication modes. I don’t think it really inhibits us from being able to understand each other but I do see that it does create prejudice, tension, and different extreme ends trying to claim superiority over each other.

    Equality does not mean we seek to make all the same. It means we treat all equally and fairly and justly. The worse REAL discrimination and oppression toward the deaf community comes from the medical, educational, employment and legislative / judicial systems. If we can unite to address those areas we will be victors even if we never reach full equality in our life time. Just by taking a stand we will be victors.

    Re: where have all the good unity for Gallaudet now leaders gone? It was very common in the Black Civil Rights movement after a very long and hard campaign for folks to go home and recuperate. The difference I think u r noting is that the leaders would still be in contact and organize and pick their next target and set the next agenda. I do not know of any efforts like that coming from the leaders of the unity for gallaudet campaign – as many of them were students I can only guess they r busy with their studies and r trying to work to change the system within the system as the threat re: accreditation weighed heavy on everyone’s mind

    I think there is nothing to stop folks from peacefully asking the Gally bot what the game plan is re: the new search process for the next president of gallaudet and to also assert what characteristics and qualifications the community feels should be required / expected



  31. pdurr
    Jan 05, 2008 @ 11:08:23

    Aidan – I agree the Gallaudet community has done a great job of improving things after the protest. Im anxious to see how the search process is designed because the chief catalyst for DPN and UFG was the Board’s selections overlooking and ignoring the voice of the people

    Any Board of Trustee’s is a system


  32. Platonic's Eye
    Jan 05, 2008 @ 11:30:21

    Well, Gallaudet s Deaf community is not the same way as Deaf Community’s grassroots, both have different because Gallaudet’s Deaf community is very very small compare to A big picture of the Deaf Community’s grassroots have different experience of being biased and face a great barriers of their own progress in their living and Gallaudt’s Deaf community has been a real progress for upgrading the quality of education that is what they need most but our grassroots are still struggling to find the defination of their own identity and language which are not easy to describe because of very deep different experience of being Deaf!!! Dr Davilla might be an activist only inside Gallaudet University not involving with the grassroots!

  33. Coach Creech
    Jan 05, 2008 @ 13:22:34

    I concur with Carl, and I also known many, many, and many “dead” deaf people surrounding in my life. Good issue! Thanks, Coach Creech

  34. Mishkazena
    Jan 05, 2008 @ 13:40:10

    Ella’s ASL is so beautiful. I’ve always enjoyed watching her ASL.. they are like poetry to my eyes 🙂

  35. pdurr
    Jan 05, 2008 @ 18:02:47

    PE – yes grassroots is very important and often overlooked

    CC – i hope u know more “alive/awake” than “dead” deaf people

    MZ – i second that sentiment big time

    we r very fortunate to have such wonderful ASL orators and the medium of vlogs and the mechanicism of Deafread and the WWW to distribute such as a light and beacon and a ray of hope for ourselves and our children



  36. CNW
    Jan 05, 2008 @ 20:34:38

    Interesting that you wrote: “He also seemed to be anticipating his own death, which would come three years later, at the hands of violence.”

    I just find it interesting because there’s an even more famous and very prophetic speech given the night before his assassination. He said…

    “Well, I don’t know what will happen now. We’ve got some difficult days ahead. But it really doesn’t matter with me now, because I’ve been to the mountaintop.

    And I don’t mind.

    Like anybody, I would like to live a long life. Longevity has its place. But I’m not concerned about that now. I just want to do God’s will. And He’s allowed me to go up to the mountain. And I’ve looked over. And I’ve seen the Promised Land. I may not get there with you. But I want you to know tonight, that we, as a people, will get to the promised land!

    And so I’m happy, tonight.

    I’m not worried about anything.

    I’m not fearing any man!

    Mine eyes have seen the glory of the coming of the Lord!!”

  37. pdurr
    Jan 05, 2008 @ 20:43:44

    thank u for sharing this quote

    it is amazing and when i have read it before – i have thought would and could i do the same – i doubt so

    yes for me this is totally amazing – that Dr. King “knew” yet he continued

    may we all see the mountaintop with such courage, hope and love



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